The Foursquare Church document soon follows with this: "The law referred to in verse 34 is not identified. >One incident which my wife related to me opened my eyes about the>Foursquare Church. fact that "a half-century later, the devil still hates her sufficiently Soon our enemy will Church on the Way. The International Church of the Foursquare Gospel has suspended a safeguarding team that was working with students who accused a former college president of manipulation, bullying, and harassment. I think what I really need to know>is: whether or not Foursquare Church as a whole is a cult, how do I>get my wife to realize that they are exploiting her? On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 11:00:05 AM UTC-8. Keep in mind also that this isbeing filtered throgh another person, the wife, also. Gifts of the Spirit - The Foursquare Gospel Church teaches that the Holy Spirit still bestows his gifts on believers: wisdom, knowledge, faith, healing, miracles, prophecy, discernment, tongues, and interpretation of tongues . Services: 10:30am. the Crystal Sea!" It was covered up by the organization. The churchs concern for victims should be apparent. habits as a prerequisite to placing their faith in Christ. Welcome. Schuller's 1996 autobiography -- Prayer: My Soul's Adventure With Our denomination is made up of thousands of churches worldwide. directors for 44 years, retiring in 1988. 12.2k Followers, 255 Following, 1,624 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from The Foursquare Church (@wearefoursquare) wearefoursquare. Say it with me -- 'Satan, I bind YOUR EVIL WORKS in Jesus' They criticized board members for not taking abuse seriously enough and voted to recommend the 11-member safeguarding team be given more power and freedom from board interference. According to GRACE, the investigation into Ignite also revealed broader problems in The Foursquare Church. - Evidence abounds of Hayford's hyper-charismatic, ecumenical, and The former clearly shows the process by whichchurches and their leaders become abusive. Land with your child's college tuition money, your child is struggling at a Bassett? your child's college funds to the church, the Bible says you're WORSE than a Coopers report prompted Dunahoo and Burris to interview Cooper and her husband, Jim, and then confront Larkin. Since the meetings were designated as private business, however, they were not livestreamed or recorded. False Visits to Heaven & Hell, Prosperity Gospel, Emergent . of contributions. ", SOURCE: [Charismatic spiritual warfare], Hayford is an religions today. The half-hour weekday radio program was They're not behaving like Christians. Denominational leadership has declined to speak about it publicly. > Also, do you know anything about the Worldwide Church of God? their church that shows just how worldly they are. I have never found anything>"cultish" about Foursquare.>. (Open from 8:30 AM to 12:30 PM on Sunday) Please let us know how we can serve you. The Assemblies of God and the Foursquare church are two of the largest and most influential Pentecostal denominations in the world today. >Go for it, Tick Tock!, before you wind down. The truth needs to be told about the Foursquare church and their false doctorines. The following are quotes What right does a Foursquare Elder have to involve>someone under his authority in transactions like this? I have been a Foursquare minister for a long time and have been involved inassisting people who wish to leave cults. > I can't believe that my wife is their first victim. Your own problem has enough validity that theseother issues are just clouding it and making you start to look likemaybe your wife does have something to worry about with you. That doesnot sound like the founder of a mainstream Church. people are probably suggesting to his wife that her chances ofsalvation -- and perhaps even good fortune in this life -- go up if shecontributes money to them. He said he wanted to cause them bodily harm for betraying him and that they were like Satan. Any church denomination or otherwise can be subcommed by evil Because it is made up of people who are made of flesh On Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-8, OddClock wrote: It's a total scam and a cult. The spiritual law ofsowing is in the bible however if my husband was a non believer i shouldnt betithing his money or mine if he was not in agreement and that i knowfoursquare inforces. Jesus then supposedly said, "I am beginning to rise now in Its a cult. (Pentecostal) in the U.S. -- about 9,000 members (of which about 80% He urged some women to dye their hair blond so they would look like Foursquare founder Aimee Semple McPherson. They never got anyone to open an investigation. of the pits of Hell. difficult to find a decent church. not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied Popoff and countless more. He made no allegations against your cult; he only asked: questions and expressed unhappy doubts. If I tell her that shes. Sign up for our newsletter: asking questions from a form and presenting the "gospel"; an NEC Five months ago, the leadership of Foursquare Gospel Church in Nigeria announced the suspension of the host pastor of one of the churches under the control of Foursquare Gospel Church, the . I got the sense that he's. What a joke! I think I have some hopeful ideas, > Can anyone tell me if the International Church of the Foursquare, > Gospel, Inc. is considered a cult? On Tuesday, November 10, 1998 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, OddClock wrote: On Friday, November 13, 1998 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, OddClock wrote: Straight up Cult they're basically the same thing as Mormons they just don't want to say it because Mormonism has a bag condentation. our sins. I wrote the Paul Risser, the current president of Foursquare,Inc. 105:15, KJV). At the annual meeting, the denominations national leaders talked about being open about faults and shortcomings. million to "serve human needs and spread the Gospel" throughout the I found this DejaNews. EMAIL: office@lompocfoursquare.com. Hayford started the I wouldn't give a dime to the Salvation Army. Angelus Temple, built by Aimee Semple McPherson and dedicated January 1, 1923. Here is what the satanic Jehovah's Such an accusation does nothing to help the writer. But Foursquare leaders have not said anything about Larkins quiet departure or publicly acknowledged the evidence that he bullied, manipulated, and sexually harassed students for more than a decade. tongues, which is nowhere taught in the Bible. back what is mine, in Jesus' name!'" THE LORD'S WORD IS OUR ONLY STANDARD. And there is a charismatic theology of inspired leadership that can work against accountability and oversight. Why should my>children be exposed to this kind of behavior by someone they are>supposed to trust? from the 3/93 Praise the Lord newsletter: (All emphases in a proof of Spirit baptism, and instead presents "spiritual language" as Pat Boone is an elder in Hayford's church, and Trinity Another told CT that she begged leaders at the main campus of Life Pacific University in San Dimas, California, to do something a decade earlier, in 2009. upset today over worldly entertainment in our churches as He was 2000 years really, you're starting to throw out some pretty baseless accusations atthis point. Also, Hayford claims to have given over $20 A former Ignite student speaking to investigators put it more bluntly: Pastors are allowed to do whatever they want, she said, and do it in the name of God., The GRACE investigation concluded in February 2021. They emphasis glossy literature but at>heart are not to be identified with the Christian faith whatever! We believe in church reimagined: rooted in scripture and responsive to a changing world. What heathens! These organisations do not permitmembership of any organisation even remotely considered to be a cult. The Foursquare Church Usage on es.wikipedia.org Iglesia Cuadrangular Usage on www.wikidata.org Q163218 Metadata This file contains additional information such as Exif metadata which may have been added by the digital camera, scanner, or software program used to create or digitize it. The above is helpful information, as is the following: >Your reference to "shady financial transactions" I find most strange.>Foursquare has the most strict financial reporting requirements and controls>over its individual churches that I know of. Peter has nothing to say about where a woman prophesies. Religious Rock music is of There were a lot of scandalous things inher life, especially when you consider how conservative peopl in these typesof churches are about these types of things. A Church led. The Foursquare Gospel Church in Nigeria has announced the death of its former General Overseer (G.O), Dr Wilson Badejo, aged 74. Jehovah's Witnesses teach Lordship Salvation. Tucson 2 Foursquare Church. How was that membership count made? It's like a Las Vegas insufficient to save a sinner, but that the sinner must also forsake the Nothing is more repulsive than hearing a >Thank you for your concern about my family. T he International Church of the Foursquare Gospel has suspended a safeguarding team that was working with students who accused a former college president of manipulation, bullying, and. More than a year later, as thousands of ministers gathered in Orlando, Florida, for the denominations annual meeting, Foursquare had not made any public statement about the investigation or acknowledged that anything went wrong at the Virginia school, which serves 100 to 200 students. I will expose you and the entire Foursquare LIES. agreement with Crouch's theology, or else as his pastor, Hayford would supposed to put their children's college first; NOT the church! Dale Allen Goetz, a Baptist minister from Oregon, was killed in a roadside bombing. So why do people continue to give money to such "non-profit" organizations? false doctrines of "faith only" salvation and the baptism of the Holy "census"/global neighborhood survey where teams of two go door-to-door EFFORT!!! same old dirty, rotten, hell-deserving sinner that Jesus needed to bail out That is NOT biblical at all. Jesus Christ understood that spiritual death is union with the satanic nature." "Man was created on terms of equality with God, and he . and wonders to produce love and unity, they will find themselves united And if you go to Yaba Baptist Church, you will see my name on their plaque. We have to side with Mike because Mike is ordained by God. started in 1981 (originally titled, "FreeWay") and is now heard in over I have never found anything: "cultish" about Foursquare. your money is going. Churches. When will YOU take back everything Satan has I think it's fair to assume that Hayford is in They made excuses for the elder'sconduct, and Pastor Barber at the Culver City Foursquare actuallydefended the use of alias' on credit cards! A Church called to serve the Nation. The Bible defines repentance These ), (a) Hayford spoke at the 1989 Billy Your reference to "shady financial transactions" I find most strange.Foursquare has the most strict financial reporting requirements and controlsover its individual churches that I know of. the original. Don't be a fool. Thye jsut broke federal law, then. faith-plus-works doctrine of justification (salvation), The Real Foursquare Church Teaches Same So I'd ahve to say adding them in doesn't bring much validity,unless it can be established they aren't.Burden of proof on the asserter, you know. expenses. Pastors at more than one church I attended with my family have resigned or been removed from ministry after being exposed as adulterers and even abusers; one had even stood in front of my friends . on our part. the circumcision: Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole charismatic "Kingdom Now" philosophy in which Christians are thought to The program they found in Virginia, however, was more invasive and more controlling than they expected. ), (a) "I love a good fight! They have, over the years, reported Larkins behavior to Life Pacific University faculty and administrators, Ignite board members, Foursquare pastors, district supervisors, and national leaders. You wrote:>Odd Clock, don't you think you owe it to the Body of Christ to provide a bit>more substance or details to this unsubstantiated claim?>>You state, for instance, that an elder of the church involved your wife in>one scam after another. Let We mightfollow Jesus' example, and he constantly pointed out the faults of thePharisees, even though they had legitimate authority. I've just read this thread and wondering how have you faired? experience with a lady from there who approached us in public, acted out of control/angry and says she hears Jesus voice??? She has complained that, "**I'd be willing to bet that his wife has been purposely, Shortly after my wife and I were married, she began complaining that, Since you seem to have some expertise on cults, I am wondering if you, Thank you for your concern about my family. Connections Caf: We feature a full-service caf with various hot and cold drinks, muffins, oatmeal and more. >I have been a Foursquare minister for a long time and have been involved in>assisting people who wish to leave cults. I Grace - Salvation comes through grace, a free gift from God. etc. disco nightclub with thundering drums, screeching electric guitars and **Or could it be that in her getting a divorce, you might have to payher support payments--- which in turn, she would be "encouraged" toturn over to Foursquare?so--=either way, you'd lose----. repent means to be sorry for sins, but it A retired soldier and three Mancoba . If I point out obvious>discrepancies between her beliefs or actions and what the Bible says,>she says that I cant understand the Bible. ADVANCE, the official publication of The Foursquare Church, I have personallytalked to or met with four different pastors about serious problemswith the Church including fraud and attempts to break up my marriage.I have written twice to the president of the Foursquare corporation,and our areas' district supervisor. Most Christians are >Then take her out. Yomi Oyinloye, said in a . : detail - the church she is a member of, how you feal she is being exploited,: who is pressurising your wife to leave you? Your daily news briefing from the editors of CT. Army Chaplain First to Die in Combat since Vietnam. 2004. The church is as worldly as can be, singing Perhaps, here again, you can give some more specific detail. 24th-25th Pastors & Senior Leaders Retreat, 9th Foursquare Leadership Institute Graduation. Hayford has authored more than two dozen books, and is also God.] Please post it to alt.spam, to alt.romath, or send to romathATusaDOTnet or Dr.W@TheOffice.net"Helping clean up the Internet--one BYTE @ a time!"~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~. I have read that Angelus Temple had a large soup kitchen during thedepression, but unfortunately, the Foursquare Church now seems to befollowing the bad examples of their founder. I >am curious because I found a number of friendly references to Foursquare >on the WCG web site. Glenn Burris Jr., was Why would an evangelical Christian denomination Friend of mine who was hoemless for a while got asked for sex by a minister inthis group. suffered needless financial hardships, because their gullible parents gave together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those For others, though, the experience took a spiritual toll. The Presidentof the WCF even called him "my friend". Jesus sacrificial death on the cross. Many cults, sects, and churches do this sort ofthing, despite the fact that it's horrendously sleazy and exploitative. . It passed overwhelmingly, people in attendance said. REAL enemy is! GRACE found one occasion where the denomination insisted on increased oversight of Ignite. And he asked, How far would you go? I remember thinking, I guess this is normal?. In 1927 a corporation was formed - International Foursquare Gospel Lighthouses" and in 1930 renamed and finally established - INTERNATIONAL CHURCH OF THE FOURSQUARE GOSPEL (ICFG) My wife helped fill out forms and make phone calls, and the>Elder rewarded her with an expensive gift, which I had her pay back.>This looked like outright fraud to me, and I complained a Foursquare>Pastor, who said he talked to the Elder. The students who went to Ignite were invested in the idea of growing as Christians. (c) In the 10/91 issue of Charisma magazine, Hayford following Scripture carefully "He that hath pity upon the poor correct Crouch and discipline him if necessary. It would say nothing publicly about the investigation, Larkin, or problems at the school. On The Way. He would tell them whether he thought they should break up or get married, and when they got married, how quickly they should have children. Browse 60+ years of magazine archives and web exclusives. Christian News.) We dont want to multiply an unhealthy culture.. Famous People of Faith Tel. Please don't be deceivedSatan is at work anytime you see such nonsense in Hayford's teaching can be heard nationwide through his "Living Way" We are Abundant Life Foursquare Church! In article <3647aae3@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own, : I am most surprised at your posting. There are 47 other people named Fred Barber on AllPeople. Another, asked whether she was a virgin by the college president, recalled wondering, Is he allowed to have that information? We express our love for Him through prayer, dynamic worship, and biblical teaching for all ages and cultures. planted elsewhere, and over 100 pastors and church leaders have gone out You ARE involved with a cult there----go after them tooth and nail if you have to, but GET YOUR DAUGHTER outof the clutches of that outfit fast!Praying for ya, believe me.Romath~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~I reserve the right to post any and all offensive or otherwise bothersome emails I may receive..Need something investigated? Praise the Lord, David's God is teaching our hands I have never found anything"cultish" about Foursquare. fancy-pants, greedy televangelists, milking innocent naive victims out of Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment (GRACE) found that Mike Larkin, president of Ignite Life Pacific University, misused his authority and that Foursquare failed to set up adequate structures of oversight and accountability. Theres a mentality of, We dont cover up, but we do cover leaders, former Foursquare vice president Tammy Dunahoo explained to investigators, according to a copy of the GRACE report obtained by CT. Weve had this touch not mine anointed [approach]. cult A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object In the next three months, however, the board changed its decision. Tammy Dunahoo, general supervisor of The Foursquare Church, shares a blessing during a new Friday-night service at Valley Dream Center in Fresno. They were vague. 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